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destiny
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: Safer Then... Or Not? |
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I was thinking the other day after the latest round of school shootings and co-ed disappearances and I wondered if the 60s (and 50s, etc.) were actually that much safer as they certainly appear to have been.... or is it a matter of the public just *seeing* more of it now with 24 hour media and graphic pictures of the crime scenes right in our living rooms? |
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kdarrell
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| No, I really believe it was a lot safer back then than it is today. There are more amunition available now, less jobs and more drugs. I think all this has an effect on the youths of today. Back then, I don't think they had all the temptations that our kids face today. |
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destiny
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| kdarrell wrote: | | No, I really believe it was a lot safer back then than it is today. There are more amunition available now, less jobs and more drugs. I think all this has an effect on the youths of today. Back then, I don't think they had all the temptations that our kids face today. |
You're probably right on this. It would be kind of nice to think that it was the same and just not reported on very much. Sure, bad stuff happened always but if this is true, then a lot of people must be very nostalgic for the 50s and 60s. Too bad there can't be a reversal, but I don't see how that would be possible.  |
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kdarrell
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Unfortuantely I don't think we can ever go back. There are just too many temptations out there now and the kids of nowadays want to experience everything. Whether it's good or bad for you, I don't think really matters. |
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destiny
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| kdarrell wrote: | | Unfortuantely I don't think we can ever go back. There are just too many temptations out there now and the kids of nowadays want to experience everything. Whether it's good or bad for you, I don't think really matters. |
So do you think that (bad as it is) *these* will be the "good old days" forty years from now? |
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kdarrell
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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No, I really hope this is as bad as it gets. With the school shootings, drugs, murders, and drinking. I don't think it can get any worse than it already is. I think it's up to the parents to try to disuade their children in their bad behavior and then maybe when they get older, they will lead by example. Who knows what were in for  |
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destiny
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 213
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| kdarrell wrote: | | No, I really hope this is as bad as it gets. With the school shootings, drugs, murders, and drinking. I don't think it can get any worse than it already is. |
I wish I could agree with this, but it's haunting to wonder if someone will be saying things like "yeah, back in the good old days of the early 2000s, we could actually get on a bus without being afraid of it blowing up." I *really* hope you're right here and that I'm overly dramatic. |
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bangfor
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: Much better now |
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| Things are better now, people live better, there is enough work, which means people would rather do better things, and it'll get better as the means of making a living gets better. It might be because of the media we hear of bad happenings quickly, whereas most incidents would've stayed inside police records or in newspapers that many people wouldn't bother to buy. |
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destiny
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Much better now |
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| bangfor wrote: | | Things are better now, people live better, there is enough work, which means people would rather do better things, and it'll get better as the means of making a living gets better. It might be because of the media we hear of bad happenings quickly, whereas most incidents would've stayed inside police records or in newspapers that many people wouldn't bother to buy. |
Well this is certainly true, bangfor... everything bad is now right in our living rooms in vivid pictures. Not always the best thing to happen. |
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bangfor
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 75
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:45 am Post subject: It has a side effect |
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| There could be enough criminal things done just for the media attention and even if you can't be certain about it the possibility is there, as every small incident gets a huge coverage. |
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rattitude
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 101
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The number of sociopaths in the population is pretty steady at around 2%. You might argue that they cause more deaths with guns than crossbows but I am not sure this is true. For exaplme, if you look at the proportion of people dying from violent crime in the US it is actually the lowest it has been for 30 years. The universal media coverage plus immensely larger population (if it leeds it leads) just makes the level or reduced personal risk seem otherwise. |
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bangfor
Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 75
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: It's true |
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| But 2% of what, the US population or the world population. The crime rate in the US is low and it's getting lower as you said it, but we can count a few that migh have been done for attention. But internationally now it's letting up among the Palestinians, but in Iraq they are still at it. How about if no one hears about them, I doubt that some of it will take place at all. |
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rattitude
Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 101
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Conflict regions are a whole different issues, I think. And they have been around throughout this whole period as well. It seems like a few people being bad regardless, and most people being bad when law and order breaks down, is just part (sadly) of the human condition. |
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